So, the ethics of hunting presentation went well (I suppose). My presentation rested on the premise that pleasure, alone, cannot be a means to morally justifying something if it harms a sentient being in the process. It was a bit confusing for some, and I take responsibility for that. I was searching for a paradigm shift in the ideology of hunting. I don't think we will ever eliminate hunting, nor should we. There are circumstances where hunting is needed, even if only for survival. However, in ecosystems which have lost major predatory species, and reintroduction of those species is not feasible, then perhaps it would be justified to cull herds (deer for instance) of their weaker, older, and more sickly individuals. A person who enjoys hunting would still be able to hunt, but would endeavor to mimic the art of natural predation. Humans have made a sport out of denying the natural processes of Darwin's evolution. The strong do not survive, they're hunted with the unfair advantage of our technological advances. This leaves the weak members of a population to propagate a species. This means that animals who are genetically dispositioned to be susceptible to diseases pass on their genes, while those who are not are eliminated from the pool before they can pass their genetic heritage on. Even big-game hunters should appreciate the fact that current practices might be detrimental to their sport, reducing the wild economy to nothing more than a sickly shadow of what it used to be. We've already done enough damage... where are all the grizzly bears, all the wolves, all the bison? An audience member, a young man from Montana, asked me how I felt about ranchers killing coyotes in order to protect their sheep herds. I told him I didn't like sheep... they made coyotes lazy. Domesticated animals are too easy to kill. Some, less fortunate coyotes have become the equivalent of our modern-day couch potatoes (the main difference being that when I watch TV for an evening I do not have the threat of a gun lurking somewhere within the shadows of my apartment waiting for a clear shot). Hunting, if done ethically, should mimic natural predation. We should not kill animals for pleasure alone. We should, if it is needed, kill only to insure that the integrity of a well-evolved ecosystem is maintained.